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 Post subject: The "I hate Transformers" Thread
New postPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:54 pm 
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Ok this thread needs little explanation: I simply hated the movie transformers. The movie had a crappy plot, bad acting, and seemed completely unoriginal.

Some things that stand out:

Did the "black" robot really have to die first? Not to mention did they feel the need to stereotype a robot into being "black"?

The "loser" gets the hot girl and "wins" her from the jerk? Ok how many times has then been done in the movie?

The cube? WTF?

The scene where the autobot turned into a new 2009 Chevrolet Camaro annoyed me to know end. WTH? It's still a Camaro ... it wasn't like he turned into some kind of exotic car.

The movie just seemed to follow the Hollywood recipe of wasting time and money on things like CGI and special effects while forgetting about the actual movie.


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It was just cheesy.
They tried too hard.
And the whole teenage romance intertwined was just plain shitty.
As soon as that situation was made evident, I was turned off.
I didn't start thinking about it until the fight scene at the end.
But then, lo and behold, the black robot gets owned. What the HELL? He didn't bust a cap or nuthin'. He just....talked trash and got ripped in half.
THEN you have this whole scene about how awesome the main character is or whatever and he has the cube. And blah blah blah. Drama drama. I'm standing on the edge of a building just like in 10928 other movies.
Then the cube destroys Megatron.
Yeah.
That's it.
And THEN the characters make out with the sunset in the background and Optimus Prime is right there, just kinda chilling.
And he's like "blah blah blah blah" while the camera is like "damn, this boy is getting lucky on the hood of a transformer car" and the transformer car is like "this is so cool. we are all hear and making out and looking at the sunset and talking and i'm going to put on some festive music."

And for some reason, random plot lines mixed with CGI effects makes everyone say "Badass".
And the Linkin Park single "What I've Done" pumps everyone up and they're like "FUCK YA TRANSFORMERS".

I love the old transformers, the actual toys, and the actual series.
None of this hollywood bullshit.

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*Thank you for making this thread Omens. Was this upon my request? Or were you planning on it anyway? =]*

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Wait, I just remembered more.

And then, starscream (a badass transformer, the best of the old series imo) disappears from the movie.
Completely disappears.
And then randomly, like 30 seconds into credits, they show a 2 second clip of him flying away from earth.
Umm...
Why did they do this?
First of all, no one is left on the evil side. The cube is gone, megatron is gone. what the hell is he going to do.
Fly back later to create suspense and get raped?
And I don't know if it was just me, but it seemed like they forgot about starscream and after they were done making the movie they were like, "Shit! We forgot about starscream!" So they throw a teaser into the credits to tie up loose ends.

The only time I was really the most interested in the film was when Starscream came up and I was into counterstrike source pretty big and a guy that i always played with was named starscream and i couldn't be my finger on what it was, but i had heard it before. and then in the theater, when they mentioned the name, i had a very happy joyous dance around in my head.

Oh yeah, and did they think it would be funny to put a joke about masturbation in the movie?
Smooth move retards. You are promoting the movie to the transformer audience (which is mostly younger) and you talk about masturbation.

I know i will continue to think of more, but for real this time:

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So you don't think in anyway the movie is just 'cool'?

Transformers the movie was never going to try and be deep and meaningful was it?

I for one, loved every minute of it, seeing things I so desperately wanted to when I was a kid with the toys!


Bring on transformers 2 and 3 :P


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I never watched the movie and I don't think I would want to neither for the obvious above reasons-that they'd make the cartoon remake with a hollywood type feel. When I first saw the trailer in cinema, I seriously thought wtf? lol Then when I watched the trailer a couple of times at home, it seemed only to concentrate on a few things and not what transformers is actually about. (well the cartoons anyway)

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BookieAlerts wrote:
So you don't think in anyway the movie is just 'cool'?

Transformers the movie was never going to try and be deep and meaningful was it?

I for one, loved every minute of it, seeing things I so desperately wanted to when I was a kid with the toys!


Bring on transformers 2 and 3 :P

Never going to try to be deep and meaningful?
So the random teenage relationship where the no good kid gets the hot girl isn't supposed to be meaningful? It's just supposed to spotlight the tap n toss culture prevalent when transformers come to life and fight for the galaxy on earth?

I will say this. If they didn't include all that stupid relationship shit, the movie would have been decent and i would not be raving like i am. But alas, they were retarded, and wanted to throw something on the screen that all the teenagers would relate to.

It killed the movie for me.

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i C&Ped what i wrote in another thread because its applicable to this one:

erikthered wrote:
I have 4 major types of movies:

Good-Good movies: these are the high-calibur movies that are truely inspiring and worth seeing. see: The Departed

Good-Bad movies: these are pop-corn movies that are just so entertaining you can't help but like them. see: Predator

Bad-Good movies: this is the abslute worst. movies that try to achieve greatness and fail horribly. see: Pearl Harbor

and Bad-bad movies: this is just a stupid movie made even worse. sometimes not even worth finishing. see: Battlefield Earth

The thing that frustrate me most is that all too often the movies that make the most money and please the most crowds are the Bad-Good ones. Michael Bay has mastered this art form. They usually star someone like Mel Gibson or Denzel Wash. as a single dad trying to make ends meet, or perhaps Danney Glover or Martin Sheen as the obsessive detective who's half crazy but always dedicated to the job. These movies leave nothing to think about or ponder after seeing them because most people dont like to be confused about something they have already paid for. You may think the police are close to catching the antagonist about 1/2 way into the film, but alas, it was just a look-a-like and the cops are back to square one leaving a single genius detective with the burden of putting the pieces together. They often need to have a twist at the end, a twist so impossible that no one could have seen it coming! Something like having the killer and the hero actually be the same person! Movies like this are usually described by their target audience as "F-ing awesome", or are proclaimed "The best movie ever made" immediately (see Transformers); these people usually cannot comprehend criticism to their friday night action flick and defend it by referencing how "awesome" the computer graphics and explosions were. Sometimes it feels like society is getting "Dumber and Dumber ".

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The fact that the whole movie was a commerical for GM made it even more unbearable. The true travesty of it is that the movie will sell Cameros as planned and fortunetely for Bookie Alerts i'm sure we will see sequals because it will be profitable.

in addition, Good Omens hit the nail on the head when he pointed out the terrible cliche's and rising crisis had a good follow up (especially the "new" idea of the nerd taking the hot chick away from the jerk/jock dude). They even had not 1 obvious minorty role (the black transformer) but 2 (the Spanish speaking Military dude from the beginning), no wait, there was infinite token minority roles. The hot english chick who is a genius programmer, and then the fat black dude that lives in his grandmother's house who is even better.

While the goal was probably to make this movie racially sensitive and pleasing it just seems completely racist and bigot to me. The "important" characters are all standard white people while the only minority roles were minor and just stressed black or hispanic steriotypes. That would offend me more than having no minorities at all if i were one.


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look into reading these books by my favorite critic, Roger Ebert:

Your Movie Sucks

I hate hate hated this movie!


all his books are pretty solid, but these especially pertain to the topic at hand.


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erikthered wrote:
look into reading these books by my favorite critic, Roger Ebert:

Your Movie Sucks

I hate hate hated this movie!


all his books are pretty solid, but these especially pertain to the topic at hand.


Hmm I might actually look into that book ... I need something to read and it seems right up my ally.


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risingcrisis wrote:
So the random teenage relationship where the no good kid gets the hot girl isn't supposed to be meaningful?



Not really.

Find me one kid of any age that seriously believes they can get their own 'Fox'. All films have to have a love story that ends nicely or the western world won't watch it!


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